Finals Fever: Paul & Vince’s Wild AFL 2025 Predictions

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Welcome to Why Is It So? Your last defence for common sense with your co-hosts

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Paul Zammett and Vince Loccizzano.

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Well, good morning, Vince. It's good to have you on board again for a few minutes.

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Yeah, it's nice to be back, Paul.

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We're up to the grand final, almost. Well, we're up to the finals.

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We've only got a lot of bull weeks.

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It is that time of year where you can just smell the grass again and the mornings

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are a little bit warmer, the sun's out, and the smell of finals is in the air. Absolutely.

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And I think it's very exciting when you get to the grand final day.

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And I just hope that Collingwood is there. I'm sure you do.

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I would have loved Carlton to be there, but most of that's love for us.

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But don't worry, Carlton supporters, we're only 30 years into our five-year

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plan. So you haven't got much further to go.

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I mean, you're not going to have many players left, but two have already walked out the door.

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You'll get them enough to just get them together. 20 people of the league.

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The less we talk about Carlton, the better, Paul. So why don't we talk about

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the teams that actually have made the eight?

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I think, first of all, we'll just go through who those teams are.

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We've got four games this week. Well, next week, I'm sorry.

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Yeah, first week of the finals. The first final, yes.

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So we've got Adelaide versus Collingwood. Which is the fourth, yeah.

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Yeah, which is going to be a game to remember, I think.

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They're always very close. Can I ask you a question? As a Collingwood supporter,

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about six, seven weeks ago, you were on top of the ladder, 10 points clear of

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the next team, and you finished fourth.

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Yes. How do you feel about that? Well, I think there is a method in their madness.

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They've actually thought, well, let's just hang on to everything we've got.

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We don't want to go in and hurt and injure everybody.

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We want to have a full tide when we go out there. I think the wheels are falling

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off. Well, they looked like it until they beat Melbourne.

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Oh, Melbourne. Oh, gee whiz, what a wonderful victory.

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But it almost looked like they were going to lose that. They managed to scrape

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over the line against a team who's finished 14th and only won seven games for

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the season. Well, yeah, I mean, one of the teams that had a win for a change

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was Carlton, actually, in the last round.

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And, yeah, they were just practising to see how they go next year.

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Anyway, getting back to the other thing, our first game is going to be on the Thursday.

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Thursday, indeed. Adelaide and Collingwood. I think Adelaide will beat Collingwood.

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It will be a close game, a very close game.

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So it's in Adelaide, so that gives them an advantage. But one of the players

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that's going to be missing from the Adelaide team is one of their most crucial

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players in Isaac Rankin, who, of course,

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copped a four-match ban for using a racial term against another Commonwealth player.

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And he copped about as many weeks as it would take you to keen hit someone into next week.

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They're giving more weeks suspension for a word that's uttered out on the field

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than what they are for someone who absolutely uses physical force against another player.

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Yes. Well, let's not go into that. Let's worry about the finals.

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I mean, do you think Adelaide is going to be largely weakened by the absence

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of ranking? Yes, they will.

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But for the same token, if they rely on one person to win the game, they're not a good side.

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We're not saying that they rely just on him, but they're certainly weakened.

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I think they'll have somebody else who will pop up to do the job, as most good teams do.

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They usually have someone that's going to get another soldier in.

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Yeah, and one of them will step up, if you like. So who's your prediction for this game?

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Adelaide, unfortunately. Not much? No.

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There never has been too many points between. There's the odd one here and there,

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but usually it's a goal either side, isn't it?

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Even when they play in Melbourne, Adelaide managed to push Collingwood all the way back.

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Yeah, and most other clubs don't win against them in Adelaide.

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But we, Collingwood, do actually take them right to the line.

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I think both of us at the start of the year predicted that Adelaide would jump

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into the eight from 15th position last year, but I don't think many people predicted

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that they'd go from 15th to first and actually end up on top of the ladder.

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It's a fantastic achievement by Adelaide. Yeah.

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But it will all mean nothing unless they make the grand final and win the premiership.

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Collierwood, I think, peaked too early.

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They will come back. I know people are saying too old, too slow.

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Maybe some of them are. Too good, too experienced.

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Well, that comes into it, doesn't it? But surely Scott Pendlebury's got to be

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the most crucial player on the ground, doesn't he? Playing him,

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actually, from the bench.

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In a lot of the games, he hasn't been starving lately.

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But he's so important in the middle of the ground. He is. And not because he

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gets a lot of kicks and not because he, you know.

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Directs traffic. He directs traffic and he sort of reads the game.

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And that's his big strength. And that's why he's going in for another year.

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He won't be. He looks like he could keep going to 500 games the way he's going.

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Well, he could. He could.

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I think next year he's on track to actually surpass the games record for games

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played by any player in the history of it.

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It was only 440, wasn't it? It's 432, I think it was, by Brent Harvey from North

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Melbourne. That's right, yeah.

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So he's on track to beat that next year.

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Well, he's just 400 now, is he? He's over 400. He's about 420 now.

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Oh, okay. So he'll make it if he does the season. Yeah, he'll make it. That's pretty good.

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All right, moving on from then. Well, my prediction there, by the way, just seeing you ask me,

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is that I think Collingwood might just show the value of experience and having

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played finals in consecutive years for, what is it, three years now?

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Or maybe even four years since Craig McRae got there. I think it's four.

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And they won a premiership in his second year. So I think Adelaide,

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despite the fact that they've had a fantastic home and away season,

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you know, give them full credit for that, finished on top of the ladder,

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to go into their first final without having played a final for, what, eight years.

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So maybe only Taylor Walker and maybe one or two others might have played finals before.

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A lot of them are going to be a little bit nervous and a bit edgy, I reckon.

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And if Colin would put the pressure on them, I reckon Adelaide might just find

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it a bit hard with all of the expectation around them.

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And if Collingwood get a hold of them early and silence the crowd,

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I reckon they might just get over the line. You never know.

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Well, I think you're taking Collingwood for the same reasons I'm backing Adelaide.

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Why is that? Well, in my case, if Collingwood win, I'll be happy.

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Yes, you will be. Yeah, and even though I've picked Adelaide.

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And in your case, you'd pick Collingwood.

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Believe me, I hope Adelaide win. I've been cheering hard for Adelaide.

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But I do think that the Bavillard experience in finals does count for something.

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And if there's any team out there that can use that advantage, it will be Collingwood.

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And I really do worry about Adelaide without Rankin.

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If they had Rankin in the team, I'd be a lot more inclined to pick them.

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But I think that's going to be a huge loss through this final series.

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Yeah, look, really so much good talking about what could be I understand that,

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but he's going to be a big out.

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Well, yes he is, but as I said, they'll have a good one to pop up.

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Someone is going to step in and he'll do higher than what he's done himself.

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We'll take the medal from the last year. The second qualifying final is arguably

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the best contest that certainly promises to be a fantastic contest between Geelong and the Brisbane Lions,

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the reigning premiers at the MCG on Friday night,

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the 5th of September at 7.40.

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So who do you like in this one?

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I think Brisbane will take the chocolates here.

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They've been playing well coming up to the last two or three games. Yes, they are.

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They've sort of been around. Two big wins, really, against Fremantle in Perth

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and against Hawthorne, who they've always had a bit of trouble against.

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They beat Hawthorne last weekend.

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And they're going with good form. And this is their third year up in the grand final.

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Well, in a final, sorry. No, it's probably seven or eight seasons in the finals.

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But if they make the grand final, it'll be there. There's no way.

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Yeah. If they make it. Yeah. And, well, they've got to beat Geelong first.

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Not an easy assignment first up. Will not be, no.

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Geelong's in good form, and they look fit and healthy and raring to go.

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They are. They're pretty much full strength, too, you know. I don't know that

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they've got a player out the engine at all.

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Yeah. Look, the thing with Geelong is they're always very consistent.

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That they are there every year.

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You know, they might be second, they might be eighth. They might be,

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if they miss out, it's really only by one or two.

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So they deserve some kudos, but it depends on the day.

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I think any team in the eight could win or could get to the grand final and

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win the grand final on the best day, on their best day.

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Because it's been happening right through the summer. So you think Brisbane

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will come down here and beat Geelong on the MCG? Well, they beat you long on

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their own crown a couple of games ago. Well, that's true.

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Don't begin last year. Geelong. Last year when these two teams met in a preliminary

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final for a place in the grand final, Brisbane beat Geelong as well. Exactly.

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So they are capable of doing it. Yeah, we talk about Brisbane,

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and they haven't had a big change in personnel, nor have Geelong.

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And both teams have been playing, although Geelong is being more consistent.

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Otherwise, they've been... They've had a softer draw too, it's got to be said.

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Geelong's draw, especially in the last seven or eight weeks of the home and away season.

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If you have a look at who they played, you know, really they had a very easy run through there.

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When you look at it, they've got to sort of, when they sort of put the games

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together, we're not sure where they're going to start.

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We're not going to finish, are we? So it's their good luck that their way to draw went.

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Did go their way. Look, on this occasion, I'm actually going to tip Geelong.

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I think they're a bit more primed and a bit more settled and they've barely got an injury.

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And, of course, we all know that the better prepared you are,

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the healthier your list is, the more chance you've got of winning the ultimate prize in September.

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So as much as I would love to see Brisbane win, and I do want to see them win,

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I think Geelong might just take the chocolates on this occasion.

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Well, on Saturday, of course, we have... The two elimination finals?

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Yes. Which one's the first one? That's GWS. Yeah.

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Giants against Hawthorne. Fifth versus eighth? Yes.

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This is going to be played at the GWS Home Stadium? Yes. In Western Sydney?

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Yes, it is. And it's going to be a day game at 3.15pm.

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So it'll be interesting to see how many people they get to this final. Well.

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And it'll be interesting to see which team prevails here. Who do you like?

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I'm going to go for Hawthorne simply on the fact that GWS Giants have choked

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every time they've got to this situation.

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They've played well all year.

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Well, last year they went out in straight sets. That's right.

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And I think the year before, if I'm not wrong.

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No, I don't know about the year before. I think they might have won a final.

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I can't remember now, but put it this way. They won't have the opportunity to

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go out in straight sets because there's only an elimination final here.

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So if they lose their own, they're out straight away. Yeah.

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So, no, I do think they're going to close in it. Last year they finished in the top four.

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Yeah. They lost their qualifying final, and then they lost their semi-final

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in the week out. And I think they could do the same thing against Hawthorne again.

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They're going to capitulate. And I think, although they're the favourites,

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I still think Hawthorne will probably, to be quite honest, I would prefer Giants

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rather than Hawthorne to win.

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I think Hawthorne could be a danger to Collingwood more so.

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So you're more worried about Hawthorne staying in the company? Yes, yeah.

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But I think looking at them, I think it's the WS. Well, of course,

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assuming Collingwood loses to Adelaide, which is what you predict.

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Collingwood the following week would play the winner of this game. Correct.

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So you don't want Collingwood playing Hawthorne. You'd rather than playing GWS on the MCG. Correct.

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So you're tipping GWS? I am.

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Sorry, you're tipping Hawthorne, I'm sorry, but you're hoping for GWS. Yes.

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Well, I'm actually going the other way. I actually am tipping GWS,

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and for the same reasons that you said,

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because they've gone out in straight sets, because they've been there and done

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it before and had to experience that pain of losing those two heartbreaking

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finals. They didn't lose them by much last year.

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I do believe that this time they'll make it count and that they'll beat Hawthorne.

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But I don't think Hawthorne are quite the same side without Will Day.

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It'd be interesting to see whether Josh Weddle comes back into the team.

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There's rumours that he may come back, but he's going to be a bit underdone.

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But, jeez, Will Day is an important player to Hawthorne. And when he plays,

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their winning strike rate is massive.

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And when he doesn't play, they lose more often than they win.

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I thought he was out for the year, actually. Who?

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Day. He is. He's gone. So he won't be in. No.

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Even if they make the grand final, he won't be in. Yeah. So that's one they've got to cut off.

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But that also, in their favour, they have played reasonably well to get there

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too. Of course. Without that.

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No doubt. So they were a bit higher up in the A's. Look, I think Hawthorne's

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done pretty well without some of their better players in the team to get into

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the eight and stay there.

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Where they can go from eighth position, who knows? But do you know one thing?

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If they happen to get the victory over GWS from eighth position,

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do you know that they would potentially play, and in all likelihood,

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play their next three games all at the MCG?

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And not have to travel anywhere. Really?

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Because the following week, they'd be playing Collingwood, as you're worried

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about. Yeah. If they beat Collingwood, then they'd probably play Geelong. Right?

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And then if they beat Geelong in the preliminary final, they're in the grand

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final against whether it's Adelaide or Brisbane or whoever, it doesn't matter.

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It's going to be playing with the MCG.

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So if Hawthorne happens to get over this one hurdle against GWS,

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potentially they could have a nice, easy ride and not have to get out of Melbourne,

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and play on technically their own home ground because they play all of their

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home matches at the MCG apart from those three or four in Tasmania.

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Now you know why I don't want a Hawthorne to win. Yeah, well,

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it could be the Smokey, Paul.

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It could be. It could be the Smokey. Could very much so. But anyway,

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I do hope that GWS wins, and I do expect them to win because they really do

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deserve the victory there.

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And the final game is Fremantle versus the Gold Coast Suns,

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who have made their very first finals campaign after 15 years of being in the competition,

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and they're going to have to travel five hours from the Gold Coast to Perth

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to play Fremantle on Saturday night at about 7.35pm, I think it is.

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So Fremantle will obviously go in as favourites, playing on their home turf.

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They happen to finish sixth.

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Big victory over the Western Bulldogs to get in last weekend.

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It was very impressive the way they played. So who do you like in this game?

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Well, I think Fremantle did give them a clout three games ago, wasn't it?

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Oh, they didn't win by much. which was about 11 points at the Gold Coast. Yeah, at the Gold Coast.

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But I think this is another level up, and I think they will be strong enough

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to actually take that step.

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And I think they will probably win against Fremantle.

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You reckon Gold Coast can go over there and beat them? I think so.

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Wow. Okay, so not only make their first finals appearance, but actually win it.

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So do you think, what is it about the Fremantle side that you think is a bit

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brittle or a bit, you know, a bit of a worry? I haven't watched them. I have a lot.

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But what I have seen of them, they're quite good, but they're not as, should I say, polished.

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They're more heavy. Workman-like. They don't, that's showy.

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They're not, whereas without trying, I think Gold Coast and the size of their

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players makes them stand out.

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I've got to say one thing there And I'll agree with you Is that Fremantle don't

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They have a lot of good players But there's no real standout champion That can

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take the game by the scruff of a neck Whereas Gold Coast have got You know Ben

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King up forward He kicks seven you know during the week,

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He's a goal kicking target up there They've got Noah Anderson And Matt Rowell

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in the middle of the ground That can absolutely dominate if they have to So

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and they've also got Tuk Miller and Daniel Rioli is in absolutely scintillated form.

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Yeah, actually. So, I mean, you're right, they do have a lot of weapons.

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They may very well pull it off. I just think, I just feel that the excitement,

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the adrenaline, I think it'll all work.

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It may, being that in the first quarter, they may not hit their straps,

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but I think they will come.

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Why don't they have any Gold Coast supporters that are going to make the trip?

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Oh, I am. It's a Western Australia. You're going to be a lover, do you? I think so.

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I reckon that up the stadium is going to be absolutely chop of mock full of Fremantle supporters.

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It's going to be the Purple Haze. I just think that the home ground advantage,

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and going in with such a great victory out of the Western Bulldogs,

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I just like Fremantle in this one.

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They've also got some weapons in the middle of the ground like Brayshaw and Sarong.

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And I like their spine. I think Luke Ryan and Alex Pearce, their captain,

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down back, are very solid in defence.

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And they've got the three targets up forward, you know, Josh Tracy,

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Jaya Miss, and Voss, they're Patrick Voss, who's been a real revelation this year.

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So I think Fremantle can do it

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at home. Not by much, but I think the Old Coast will put up a good show.

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They're still really, I think, more a workman type of team.

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As against a showy, quick-working, pass the ball on as quickly as possible.

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That, I think. They're more exciting than the golfers? I think so.

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And I think not only that, because that has helped them to get where they are,

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I think they will continue what they're doing.

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Okay. Well, there's one thing that's been a very constant thing when we've ever

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done this exercise of predicting the future and predicting who's going to win

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which game and who's going to lose.

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You and I are always opposed to each other.

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And in all four games, we have chosen different, opposite themes.

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For all reasons, you see. In two cases, for all reasons. Let's just recap. You believe that...

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Adelaide? Collingwood. No. Did you say? Adelaide. You said that Adelaide would

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beat Collingwood, even though you hope Collingwood wins. Correct.

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Being such a one-eyed manpower yourself. Then I picked Brisbane line.

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I went for Collingwood to cause an upset.

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So Geelong and Brisbane, you've gone for Brisbane, and I've gone for Geelong.

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Two underdogs so far. Right.

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Yep. Then the next game was GWS versus Hawthorne. You've gone for Hawthorne.

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Yes. Another underdog. Yes.

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I've gone for GWS. Yeah, and the last one is Gold Coast over Fremantle.

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So you've gone for the underdog in that one as well.

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Yes. And I was going for Fremantle. You've gone all the travis,

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and I've taken my... No, I think the first one you went for the favourite,

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and I went for the outsider. Sorry, Adelaide. Yes, I did.

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Adelaide I picked. So you went for Adelaide as the only favourite,

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and all the others you've gone for the outsider, whereas I've gone exactly the opposite.

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I went for Collingwood, the outsider, in the first game, and I've gone for the

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favourites in all the other three. Well, time will tell.

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It will. Let's just try and foresee who is eventually, based on your victories,

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who's eventually going to play

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off in the grand final and who's going to win. Give me your two teams.

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What I'd like or what I think? What do you think? Your prediction.

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If Collingwood win the first game against Adelaide, I think Collingwood will be one.

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But you didn't predict that. No, I said if. So give me your predictions based

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on what you think will happen, which, by the way, you think that Adelaide will

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beat Collingwood in the first week. I do.

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So do you think Collingwood can still make the grand final even if they get

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beaten in week one? Well, they can. They can, wouldn't it?

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And if they did do it that way, I wouldn't be surprised. You're talking like a typical Collingwood.

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So let's look at it realistically. So I'd go Collingwood first off.

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And then I'd... To play off with who? You're going to laugh at this.

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Why? I think Gold Coast could do it. So Collingwood-Gold Coast Grand Final. Yes.

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Wow. That would be huge. That would be huge. It wouldn't be much of a crowd.

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Gold Coast. Because the grand final doesn't matter. They wouldn't have a chance of winning the game.

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The grand final doesn't matter. They would not have a chance of winning the

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game. There's probably a chance of 100,000 putting their people in if it's a grand final.

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Well, I disagree with you here. Well, you have all right.

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I actually think the two teams that are playing off in the first qualifying

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final, sorry, the second qualifying final, which is Geelong and Brisbane,

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I think that they will end up playing each other in the grand final.

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No. That's interesting. Right. So we've got Geelong and Brisbane.

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Geelong and Brisbane. In other words, the second. So even if the second.

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So I predicted Geelong would win that first final.

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So I think Brisbane could then recover from that. They play a home final the following week.

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Then they would have to either travel to Adelaide to play them or to play Collingwood at PMCG.

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Now, either way, I think they're a big chance to win in the prelim and then

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play off in the grand final.

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So I still believe it could be a Geelong and Brisbane grand final.

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Well, and time will tell.

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And I do believe that finals experience really does count, and that's the only

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reason why I'm deleting Fremantle and Gold Coast.

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But for Gold Coast to actually get there, they're going to have to be either

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Geelong or Collingwood or Brisbane if, hang on, yes, Collingwood or Brisbane.

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On the way there. Yes. They'll have to beat one at least.

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Well, one thing about the two teams that finish 7th and 8th is that they never get a home final,

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unless they're a Victorian team like Hawthorne, who's finished 8th,

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that might be fortunate enough to play the way the cards fall to play at the

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MCG as the away team against either Collingwood or Geelong.

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But don't forget, Hawthorne has played very, very, very well on away games.

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Yeah. They haven't lost too many of those. Well. And usually we always say,

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well, the hometown's got the advantage, yet here we have Geelong,

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who finished up at the home ground for this final. Okay.

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Now, we've predicted the two teams. Who do you think's going to win?

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So you said Conlin versus Gold Coast. Conlin.

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Conlin. Spoken like a typical Conlin.

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Probably more hard than to the fact.

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But yes. Well, Geelong versus Brisbane.

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I'm going to go for a back-to-back victory to the Brisbane Lions.

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Interesting. Be interesting. Well, what do you think? I reckon we're both going to be wrong.

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It'll probably be two teams that are nothing like what we just predicted.

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Well, we're like those two blokes that are experts on everything and end up

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being wrong on everything as well.

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Hey, I haven't been too far wrong. Again, with my finals, where the finals are

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finished, I didn't pick, I don't think I did. I'll have to have a look at it, actually.

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I don't think I picked the Gold Coast.

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To get into the finals. Well, thank you very much for your...

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As I say, my mum was sure. That's all, folks.

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Yes, well, thank you for making the time, and I know you've got to go back to bed now.

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Thanks for having me. What do you mean by that? Well, with your problems that

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you're having, let's face it.

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My people know here and here that you haven't been too well.

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No, I haven't. And we've pulled you out. I'm not going to bed.

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No, well, if we go home and go for a walk, it's a bit wet.

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So you're going to have to do something. Anyway, hopefully I'll be on the improve.

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Excellent. All right. Look forward to seeing you. Enjoy the NFL finals,

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Paul. It's a great series, and whoever ends up winning them is a deserved winner.

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My colleague. They need it.

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Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Thanks very much again, mate.

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Good to see you. Bye. Bye-bye.

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