Government Failures: Insights from Gordon Phillips"

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Welcome to Why Is It So? Your last defence for common sense with your co-hosts

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Paul Zammett and Vince Loccizzano.

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Welcome to Why Is It So? I'm your

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host Paul and today we have a very interesting guest for this episode.

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The guest is Gordon Phillips who is a veteran currency trader,

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a financial analyst, a published author, educator, public speaker,

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consultant and futurist. He's quite a busy man.

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Reading his new book only emphasises how life all around the world is that close

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by the way we are governed, the way we learn, the way we live, the way we spend.

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The Risky Reader by Gordon Phillips was written by and for life in the USA but

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could have been written depicting any country in the world.

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So let me introduce you to Gordon Phillips.

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Good morning, Gordon. I've already told our listeners a little bit about you,

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so why don't you go ahead and tell us why you decided to write your book, The Risky Reader.

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Well, Paul, thanks for having me on. It's great to join you.

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I've been a private wealth coach and consultant for probably the last 30,

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35 years of my adult life.

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And worked with families mostly all over America, helping them to mitigate risk

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in their personal financial profiles.

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A very scientific approach is not something that financial planners typically do.

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During that period, I had children. And I had three wonderful kids.

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And I homeschooled all three of them. And one of the things that I taught them

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was the true nature of the relationship between we, the people,

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and the governments that we keep creating to rule us. Yeah.

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Yeah. And the fact is that every single government throughout history,

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without exception, has failed.

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And that's quite a track record. And failed in chaos, in turmoil.

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The very last act of every government is to loot the treasury on their way out the door.

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And I am very strongly persuaded that we're on the path for the same thing to

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happen to the United States.

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So the question is, why does this keep happening throughout history?

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And the answer is because the people allow it to happen. Because the governments

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are supposed to work for us, right? They're the public servants.

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Have you felt like having looked through... 488 pages, so I haven't read it.

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But have you found that government situations you're talking about,

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is really every country in the world almost, isn't it?

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That same thing happens everywhere you sort of look.

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It's not just something that the U.S. have got on their own.

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Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

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Human beings are human beings. Yeah.

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But we're all the same. We come in different shapes and colors and sizes.

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But we're all just people.

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And human nature has never changed throughout all of history.

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Communication, transportation, most things will improve with technology.

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But human nature has never changed, so we keep making the same mistakes,

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like the movie Groundhog Day.

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Of course, it's true in Australia, it's true in America, it's true everywhere.

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Yes. Yeah. It's just a matter of to one extent.

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Some are better at it than others. Well, you could argue that.

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This country sided out very strongly after the revolution.

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We broke away from Great Britain in the late 1700s. But quite honestly,

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if you're a student of American history, which I am, you can see where it started

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going down the drain within the first 25 years. Yeah.

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Just in the book, during your school years, you call yourself incorrigible,

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a serial offender, and endless admonitions to settle you down did no good.

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And you were public school's worst nightmare.

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Why was that? Was that right?

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I don't claim to be the worst in all of history, but at that time,

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there was nothing to put boo with me because I would finish my work in minutes

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and then I'd have the whole rest of the hour with nothing to do but sit there

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in my seat and fidget and drive everybody crazy.

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So they started finding excuses to get me out of the classroom.

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And in those days, if you weren't in public school during school hours, you'd have to

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You were a truant, and your parents could be tried for abetting truancy.

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But they let me, at 10 years old, walk all the way downtown all the time during school hours.

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Because somehow my teachers kept running out of paperclips and rubber bands.

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And I had to get them. Yeah. And then the janitor, this wise old fellow,

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he started a photography club.

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He emptied out a janitorial closet and then bought enough chemicals to build up to school.

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And they started a photography club

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and i was the only member of the photography club so i'm

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running around taking pictures and i'm developing film the old-fashioned way

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you know in the bath sloshing and hanging them

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up with clothes pins they did everything they could to keep

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me out of the classroom no yeah and and i i joke in the book that the the janitor

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unwittingly actually invented homeschooling because all the things they had

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me do that inspire creativity and ingenuity and thinking for yourself are exactly

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what we do when we homeschool our kids.

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So this sort of went into primary and into senior school as well,

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I take it? Yeah, yeah. Yes, okay, yeah.

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You don't seem to miss having a shot at anyone or anything from the government,

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large companies, small traders, to general public, and you don't favor any political party, I see.

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No, I like to keep things optimistic. I'm not a pessimist. I'm not here to bash

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the world. I'm here to help people.

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But I'm a realist. I mean, my hardcore, died-in-the-world realist.

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And it's not fun sometimes being a realist because you're not invited back to parties.

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But the truth is, right now, at this point in our civilization,

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I think everybody can see it. We're just swimming in fraud and lies and deceit

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and cover-ups, half-truths, deception.

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It's all you can do to keep your head screwed on, right?

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And so I try to be an observer. I try to not get emotionally involved.

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I don't get involved in politics because I honestly believe that both major

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parties in America are equally corrupt for all different reasons.

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So when you stand back far enough and you take on the role of an observer,

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it's not like you're being a snob or you're being elitist or you're better than anybody else.

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You're just standing back saying, I can't control this situation.

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There's nothing I can do to stop these crazy people from doing what they're going to do.

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But I have the power to be strong myself. I have the power to help to extend

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that strength to my children, to my tribe, my kids, my extended family,

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could be my neighbors, my church, everybody's got a different tribe.

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And that's what the spirit of the book is all about, is to understand what's

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really going, face it, courageously.

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Don't get all involved in it and allow yourself to become emotionally tormented

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and taking sides like you're in the middle of some kind of a sporting event.

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And the Republicans versus the Democrats or the liberals versus the conservatives.

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Stand back and take it all in and say, at the macroscopic level,

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I don't have any power to change what's going to happen.

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But I have a lot of power to take responsibility in my own life for how I live

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through this, how I survive what I think is going to be a very difficult future. I honestly do.

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And how can I help other people to do the same?

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Yeah, well, I was just thinking the same thing there. You know,

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as they say, you can't fight City Hall. It's just one of those things.

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How do you sort of change it? How do we sort of get the right people in there?

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I know most people, I'm talking about politicians here, most politicians,

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when they first enter Parliament, I think they go in with a fairly realistic,

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or sorry, in their mind, realistic way that they're going to change the world.

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Then they get in there and all the rude tape takes over and then in the finish

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they say, oh, what the hell, I can't do anything here. I might as well just

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put my snout in the tub again and keep going.

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Yeah, I like that analogy. Well, there's a couple of different ways people are

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into politics. Some are truly humanitarian.

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They're inspired. They want to make a difference. To your point,

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they get in there, and they're overwhelmed with the bureaucracy and the corruption,

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and everybody takes them in the back room and says, look, this is how we do

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things around here. If you want to get along, to go along.

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Otherwise, you're not going to run again. But there's a whole other class of

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people, and this has been proven scientifically throughout the ages,

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there's a very small percentage of human beings.

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I don't like labeling people, but they're called sociopaths.

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Or narcissists or whatever you want to call it. But there are some people who

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crave power and they crave the ability to put themselves into positions of power

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where they get to celebrate people what they have to do.

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And there are a lot of those types of people in our American Congress right now.

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I mean, easily identifiable by their actions, their behavior, their language.

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And it's really dangerous because they're the ones who write the laws.

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They can put words down on paper and those words tell you and I what we have

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to do, or else, if we don't do what they say, we go to jail,

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we pay fines, whatever the case may be.

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I saw a funny analogy, I thought it was very good, about the monkey.

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The banana. The banana guy, yeah. Could you just go through that with me again?

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I thought it was quite, tell our listeners what it was.

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Yeah, thanks, Paul. It's very instructive. So the way it goes, I'll try to be brief.

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So a bunch of researchers put five monkeys in a cage, and in the middle of the cage is a stepladder.

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And if they climb the stepladder, hanging directly from the top is a banana on a string.

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So one of the monkeys goes up the ladder and grabs the banana.

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And immediately the researchers spray all five monkeys with icy cold water.

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And so the monkey that went for the banana comes running back down.

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When he goes for the banana again, they spray them all in water.

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And now the other monkeys are fighting. They want to let that guy go back up to get the banana.

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So now they remove the monkey that went for the banana, and they replace him

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with a brand-new monkey who's never been sprayed.

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First thing he does is he sees the banana, and all the other monkeys attack

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him. And he has no idea why.

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And then they replace him. Eventually, you've got five brand-new monkeys.

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They've never been sprayed, and now one of them will ever go after the banana.

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And there's a human nature for you right there. Yeah, it sort of always to the back of your mind.

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Really, yeah. Yeah. As I said before,

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have you actually, I know you've obviously researched the US on your subject

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about politicians, et cetera, and I didn't want to make it a complete political

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thing, but just one more thing.

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No. Did you sort of compare other countries with the situation they're in?

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Well, yeah, I do a lot of studies on that. I didn't write about it in the book.

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But right now, currently, the European bond market is broken.

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And so they're going to take Europe to war with Russia, I do believe.

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I mean, I'm not a prognosticator. I'm not sitting here pretending to be Nostradamus with a crystal ball.

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But if I were a betting man, I'd say the odds are 95% that within the next two

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or three years, there will be aggression against Russia.

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And government students throughout history, when they destroy their economies

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and their people are rioting in the streets, putting their hair out because

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they can't see their children, they take the country to war.

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They cover everything over. And you combine that with a new 100% digital programmable currency.

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And now you have the ability to totally trap people in a financial system with no privacy.

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You control what they earn, what they can spend. You can make all your own government

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debt just go away with the push of a button.

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You can do pretty much anything you want and the people will just bank for security.

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They'll abandon their liberties and just beg for the government to take care of them.

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This has been a ploy, a ruse, a strategy governments have used throughout history.

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To me, I see it coming first in slow motion, now speeding up.

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So, yeah, I don't know if that directly answered your question. Yeah, basically, yeah.

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It depends on the type of people. I mean, we might go into your current president. Yeah, yeah.

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He thinks he's the prime minister or the king or whatever. I don't know.

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Someone's pushing the right button somewhere. Yeah.

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Just, I believe at one time a reporter from a local newspaper sat you down to

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have a short interview with you.

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And one of the questions he asked was, can you explain the divergent movement?

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And what is a divergent movement? Well, it's tongue in cheek.

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The glorious worldwide divergent movement consists of four people,

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me and my three closest friends.

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But the concept of diverging is, again, to step away from the mainstream.

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So the famous poem said there were two roads and two paths in the woods,

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and I took the one less traveled.

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Yeah, the whole idea is...

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You have this normal perception of reality that 95% of the public embraces.

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And they're often very misinformed, let me put it that way, about what's really going on.

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And so to diverge from the culture, again, it's not to be elitist.

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You're not any better than anybody else. You're just being more discerning,

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more skeptical, better informed.

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Change your sources of information so that you're getting a complete 316-degree picture of a situation.

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Think ahead. As I said earlier, be responsible for yourself and your behavior.

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Prepare for, you know, the Boy Scouts taught me when I was a kid.

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Be prepared, you know, be prepared.

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So that's what it is. It's a little bit of fun there about becoming a divergent.

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I encourage everyone to become a divergent. How's that?

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Yeah, right. I think I saw in the summary of the book that the book actually

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took some 30 years to come to fruition. Is that correct?

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Well, it's a collection of essays. I think like 70 essays. Yes.

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And I've been writing for decades.

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All right. It's like a cathartic exercise.

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Some of the essays I shared with my kids when I was homeschooling them.

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Some I would share with a few friends. I never published them.

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So when I decided to write a book, I went back through hundreds of essays,

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and I took out the ones I thought were the best and deserving of being published,

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and I went back and I refined them, I rewrote them, I cleaned them up, and I put them in a book.

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So why did you do the homeschooling? What sort of reason did you have to homeschool

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rather than send them to school?

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Well, boy, I could take a whole weekend to answer that. How can I?

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I'll go quick, babe. Let's do it.

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I think that by homeschooling my children, I got to grow up with them. Right.

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I got to live with them every day of their developing lives.

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I got to have a personal influence in training and raising and steering them

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to create good moral fiber, to teach them ethics, proper behavior,

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responsibility, and how to learn.

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You don't need to cram a child's brain

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full of facts and then have them regurgitate them just to pass a quiz.

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All the information is on the Internet.

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What you want to develop is a child who is naturally curious,

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who follows their dream, who can teach themselves how to learn what they need

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to know, can figure things out, can learn common sense.

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And in the process, instead of shipping them off to the brick building down

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the street where other adults spend the whole day with them,

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well, you're at work and you're lucky if you get to spend an hour with them

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in the evening, your children grow up with you.

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The most precious times of their lives, you'll never get those years back again.

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And it's just a wonderful, wonderful experience.

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How did they socially go? Like being at home, they don't need to connect with

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other people or with other kids.

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How were they socially? Did they sort of close down on the social scene or did

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they meld in later on or what happened?

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Oh, it couldn't be the opposite. I mean, that's the standard view people have

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of homeschool kids that you're weird.

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You spend all day in your pajamas and, you know, with your family. That's not true at all.

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Homeschoolers are incredibly social. There's so many opportunities and activities.

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There's all kinds of groups and clubs. They have their own sporting events.

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They put on their own plays and productions.

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Yeah, and that's just not true at all. If you think of the opposite,

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when you go to public school, you spend all year with the same other 10, 20, 30 kids.

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And then you spend all year with the same 10, 20, 30 kids again.

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You know, that's socializing.

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Homeschoolers are out in the real world dealing with people of all ages.

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And living life, being part of the culture. Yeah. Yeah, that's very interesting.

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That just sort of came up when we were talking.

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So the purpose of the book, with all the different topics that you cover, why now?

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Why did you sort of decide to put it all in writing?

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Well, again, going back to the first question you asked me, because –.

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Because governments can be wonderful and they can also be dangerous.

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And because every government ever in history has failed and collapsed. Every government.

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As I joked earlier, that's a pretty impressive track record,

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100%. The question is, why does this keep happening?

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And to what extent can individuals take responsibility for helping to shape their society?

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And this is kind of a weighty philosophical subject. I realize that.

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But it's something that young people especially need to be exposed to.

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You and I will be gone one day.

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The future is going to be run by people who are in their, you know,

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10s, 20s, 30s, 40s today. They're the ones who go out into the world and make

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decisions that affect other people's lives, fortunes, and liberties.

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And they can do a better job, hopefully, ostensibly, of creating their governments

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that don't collapse and oppress and impoverish them.

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And so that's why I wrote the book, Paul. No, jumping now to another topic,

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the media and how they, it seems that every time there's a different government

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in, they either have a liking of them and build them up or they dislike them

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and they just try and grind them into the ground.

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Do you find that, again, is a worldwide phenomenon for some reasons,

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I don't know, where do they sort of jump in and out?

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Well, this is where we could go down a rabbit trail that would start to sound conspiratorial.

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And I don't like to go there because then people accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

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But in America, there are countless books that have been written on the relationship

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between the intelligence community and the media and who's really pulling the strings.

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So we do not have an independent media in America.

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I say the mainstream media, the TV shows, the evening news, everything you see on cable TV,

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which is why there's been such an explosion of independent journalists and so-called

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influencers and thought leaders popping up on the Internet.

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That podcasters like yourself to fill in that void and bring some truths and

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facts to the public that are either being avoided in the mainstream or misrepresented

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or actually not told the truth about, like deliberately falsified. Yeah.

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And everybody's misery, taxation. Oh, yes, my goodness.

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I was just going to say, in your career, Yeah, that's probably a big part of

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the sort of things you talk to people about.

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Well, about 30 years ago, there was a movement in the United States called the

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Constitutional Revival Movement.

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And one of the components of that movement was to teach the public the truth

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about federal taxation, what the true taxing powers of the federal government

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are under our Constitution, which is the owner's manual for how to run the government.

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You know, they're supposed to follow it 100% and they can't step outside the bounds.

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But the things that they were doing and still are completely unconstitutional.

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And so I learned a lot about that. But the truth is that, you know,

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that $5 or whatever it costs in Australia will get you a cup of coffee and a

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muffin because there's no way to change it at this point.

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You can't go into court and challenge it.

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The judges won't let you discuss the Constitution or the taxing laws in court.

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It's academic. It's moot at this point.

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But it's kind of instructive of the kind of decay that occurs when governments

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are in their last innings.

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Innings is, and I'm using an American term, it's a baseball inning, yeah.

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Well, in America, you have the same sort of systems we have here in the sense

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that we have a federal tax and we have state taxes. The same thing applies over there, doesn't it?

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Oh, no, there are some states in America where you can be in New York City and

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pay a city tax, and a state tax, and a federal tax.

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Yeah, the federal taxes are supposed to be security of the country and all these

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sorts of larger areas that will concern everybody.

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Whereas different states have different needs, if you like, and they sort of

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attack different areas for taxation.

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Yeah, the whole, the original, the concept of government, if you ask somebody,

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what is government? What's it supposed to be?

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It's kind of the collective expression of the individual right of self-defense.

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The government is meant to keep the people safe and secure from threats,

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both external and internal.

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And it's the internal threats that always end up becoming the downfall of the

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government throughout history, every single time.

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Yes, it's amazing, yeah. And your book, The Risky Reader, attests to the fact

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that you have forever kept moving forward.

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And your latest project is your school that you have founded,

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the Gordon Phillips Academy. Is that correct?

00:23:11.414 --> 00:23:15.374
Yes, sir. I just launched it a month ago. What exactly does that do?

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Does this actually, do you teach them your thoughts and your biases?

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Or is it you sort of go across the whole lot well the answer as quickly as I

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can my entire adult life I've been very interested in the history of the times

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that I'm living through to understand what's really happening,

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and I gathered an enormous amount of information,

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And I wanted to make that information available on a wide spectrum so that anybody could access it.

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And so I created this school with a login, and it has an enormous amount of

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information in there that most people don't know exists, and that's been my experience.

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And if they wanted to find it, wouldn't even know where to go find it.

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So there's thousands of hours worth of research and compiling that's already been done.

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And for example, there's a page called wellness, where if you go in,

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there's a huge alphabetized list of medical issues,

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health issues, and natural wellness solutions that are extraordinarily effective,

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that most people you meet have no idea they even exist.

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And all that information is in there just for the downloading and browsing.

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And so I put a price on the tuition.

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It's actually crushing. You ready? It's $15 a month. Right up to about the cost of Netflix. Yeah.

00:24:40.936 --> 00:24:46.576
Yeah. It's a, so how many people have you got in your school now? It's only a month. Yeah.

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Just a couple of dozen. I only started this a month ago. Yeah.

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And with, with my personal mailing list and close friends and friends of friends. Yeah.

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I don't have any grandiose ambitions of turning this into something really huge.

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It'll grow over time. Yeah.

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It's not a matter of, at this stage of my life, I wanted to give back and be

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able to make information available that could really help people at a price.

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I couldn't do it for free, but it's so affordable.

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It helps to offset costs.

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And also, maybe I can hire an assistant in the near future.

00:25:20.518 --> 00:25:25.178
So, basically, where do we actually get to that school?

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It's GordonPhillipsAcademy.com. Academy? Yeah, G-O-R-D-O-N-T-H-I-L-L-I-P-S,

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Academy.com And if you go to the Enroll page, you can join in PayPal and you get a welcome message.

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Then you get an email from me with all the benefits of being a student and how

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to log in to the student area of the website.

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And we currently have three classes a week. Our main presentation is Sunday

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night, 8 o'clock New York time.

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And then Tuesday night, we have an open discussion I call Reality Roundup,

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where any student can come with any idea on their mind, any concern they're

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having, a problem in their life, a book they just read, whatever.

00:26:13.598 --> 00:26:17.758
And we all, you know, we're a nice community. And then on Thursday night,

00:26:17.918 --> 00:26:23.018
I teach currency trading, which I've done for many years.

00:26:23.638 --> 00:26:27.458
Yeah, that's it. That's what we have right now. So if I want to see that,

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I go to your website, do I sort of get a look through, a quick look through

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and say this is what's available and this is what's happening and how it works? Yes.

00:26:38.018 --> 00:26:42.958
Okay. And there's pages that are visible to the public. No. It says curriculum.

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You know, what do we do? What's available to you?

00:26:46.106 --> 00:26:49.446
One of the benefits of being a student. And then you join up all your dough,

00:26:49.826 --> 00:26:52.126
basically. Yeah, and there's no contract. There's no commitment.

00:26:52.406 --> 00:26:54.946
It's month to month. You can quit any time you like. Yeah.

00:26:55.666 --> 00:26:59.946
All right. Thank you very much. And thank you, sir. We'll get that across and

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see if we can get some more people for your school.

00:27:02.426 --> 00:27:06.346
Well, thank you. I'll make you an honorary member, an honorary student. Thank you.

00:27:06.926 --> 00:27:10.486
Yeah. What we need to do, though, is we need to get more people in America.

00:27:10.666 --> 00:27:14.586
At the moment, we've only got about circulation, if you like.

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We have 26% of our listeners who are from the U.S.

00:27:19.806 --> 00:27:26.026
Good for you. Wonderful. Yeah. So we've started, but, yeah, we don't have a huge people visit.

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We haven't done it for two and a half years.

00:27:29.086 --> 00:27:32.126
Yeah. But we've been working on it, and it's working pretty good.

00:27:32.746 --> 00:27:35.806
Good. Good for you. Yeah, I love your website. I told you that when we first

00:27:35.806 --> 00:27:38.246
started communicating on email. Yes.

00:27:38.986 --> 00:27:42.626
All right, Gordon, thank you very much for talking with us. we're coming to

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the end of our period here and we'll be back in touch with you to send you a

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copy of what we've just talked about.

00:27:50.546 --> 00:27:54.266
Thank you, Paul. This has been terrific. I really enjoyed this. We'll talk again.

00:27:55.006 --> 00:27:58.226
You take care. Bye-bye. Thank you very much. Bye, Gordon. Yep. Bye-bye.

00:27:58.746 --> 00:28:03.866
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